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Kyle Kulinski

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Host of YouTube channel Secular Talk

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Kyle Kulinski is the socialist-leaning host of Secular Talk, a YouTube-based political talk show he created in 2008 while a student at Iona College. A report on the show in the socialist opinion journal Jacobin stated that its format is part of the YouTube “logic warriors” trend, “a battleground that attracts young, alienated men looking to test out big ideas,” and that “there is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show.”  Kulinski is a supporter of democratic socialist U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), with political positions that align strongly with those of Sanders. He told the Jacobin interviewer “All I care about is Medicare for All and free college and a living wage and ending the wars and a Green New Deal and legalizing marijuana.” 1

As of March 2020, the Secular Talk YouTube channel had more than 816,000 subscribers, and more than 672 million total video views. 2 Also in March 2020, the Secular Talk Patreon page reported 4,455 individual donors giving a total of $14,320 per month, an apparent gross revenue stream that would reach $170,000 per year. 3 Separately, the social media analytic website SocialBlade estimated Secular Talk’s annual income from the YouTube productions at $59,400 to $950,000. 4 Kulinski was one of several YouTube political commentators who lost access to revenue from posts using video clips from CNN’s July 2019 Democratic Presidential debate after the network asserted Kulinski and others had committed copyright violations. 5

Previously, Kulinski was one of the co-founders of Justice Democrats, along with Cenk Uygur (the host and founder of the Young Turks Network). 6 The PAC is very critical of conventionally liberal Democratic politicians, such as former President Bill Clinton, and seeks to drive the Democratic Party toward a more left-wing policy agenda. 7 It was one of the two organizations that created the Green New Deal. 8 In December 2017, Uygur was asked to resign from the board of Justice Democrats due to allegedly “racist and sexist” statements he made in a blog post more than a decade earlier. 9 Shortly thereafter, stating he was displeased with how Uygur had been treated, Kulinski also resigned. 10

Background

Kyle Kulinski was born January 31, 1988, in Westchester County, New York. He attended Iona College, where he received a B.A. in political science. 11

A March 2020 profile in Jacobin, a socialist opinion and news journal, stated that Kulinski’s father was the owner of car dealership, but that his family’s “finances” were “wiped out” during the 2001 “dot-com crash.” Sometime afterward his parents divorced, and Kyle and his mother moved in with Kyle’s grandmother. Later, after graduating from Iona, Kulinski also attempted a brief career selling cars during the Great Recession when sales were poor. According to the Jacobin profile, “he was lucky to collect a couple hundred bucks a week.” 12

Of the period just after graduating from Iona, Kulinski told Jacobin:13

“I graduated from college then I went out in the real world, and I got slapped in the face with the reality of like, ‘Oh wait, there’s no track anymore. There’s no path anymore. What the hell do I do?’”

[. . . ] “You feel like it’s a dead end and there’s no hope and you have no idea what you’re going to do with the rest of your life or your time.” 14

In the spring of 2008, at age 20 and while still a student at Iona, Kulinski began posting the first YouTube videos of his show Secular Talk (also known as the Kyle Kulinski Show) from the basement of his grandmother’s home. By 2012, he had begun to post daily videos, having decided sometime before that to quit working at the car dealership. 15

Explaining this decision, he told Jacobin:16

“I had gotten into a fight with one of the managers at the dealership, verbal altercation or whatever. I just ended up leaving and not coming back. Then that’s when I decided, I’m going to try to do my show full-time.” 17

Secular Talk

By 2015 Kulinski’s YouTube channel had more than 100,000 subscribers and he was able to earn a living from his video posts. As of March 2020, he had more than 816,000 subscribers, and more than 672 million total video views. He moved the show out of his grandmother’s basement and began doing it from a home that he purchased in Westchester, New York. 18 19

Format

Secular Talk is produced as multiple YouTube video episodes per day, usually of three to fifteen minutes in duration. The videos feature Kulinski, often alone but sometimes with a guest, discussing what is usually a political or other news topic. 20 Since approximately early 2013 it has been featured on The Young Turks Network, a media enterprise founded by left-wing political activist and commentator Cenk Uygur. 21

Describing his objective to Jacobin, a socialist opinion journal, Kulinski said a “lot of things that are conventional wisdom or sacred cows in the media are just idiotic, and I want to be the one to point at them and say, hey that’s really dumb!” [emphasis in original]. He also noted he has “no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” doesn’t want to “hear about Lenin” or “Marx.” Instead, he said he tries to attain “a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.” 22

The Jacobin reporter wrote that Kulinski’s format is part of the YouTube “logic warriors” trend, “a battleground that attracts young, alienated men looking to test out big ideas.” The Jacobin reporter observed: “there is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show.” 23

Left-wing podcaster Michael Brooks told Jacobin that Secular Talk succeeds because Kulinski is a “clear communicator with very strong politics” and a “very clear understanding of power and how it works” who “breaks things down in intuitive ways that makes sense.” Brooks noted that this is “what a ton of people are looking for.” 24

Left-leaning journalist Glenn Greenwald, co-founder of The Intercept and a sometime guest on Secular Talk, noted Kulinski’s success had been generated by his “authenticity, independence, and honesty” unmoored to large commercial media. In an interview with Jacobin, Greenwald said Kulinski is “of the generation and background that understands why there is so much justifiable rage toward the political and media elite class in America.” 25

Kulinski is a regular guest on the Joe Rogan Experience, one of the most successful internet-based talk shows in the world. At Kulinski’s suggestion, Rogan interviewed democratic socialist U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and ultimately endorsed Sanders’s 2020 U.S. Presidential campaign. 26 27

Finances

As of March 2020, the social media analytic website SocialBlade estimated the annual income from the YouTube productions at $59,400 to $950,000. 28 Kulinski also has a page for voluntary donations on Patreon, the social media content creator membership service. As of March 2020, the Secular Talk Patreon page reported 4,455 individual donors giving a total of $14,320 per month—or what appears to a gross revenue stream that would reach $170,000 per year. 29

YouTube Demonetization

Kulinski was one of several YouTube political commentators who lost access to the revenue from posts referencing and using video clips from a July 2019 Democratic Presidential Debate hosted on CNN. The news network launched copyright complaints with YouTube over the use of its debate videos and, according to news reports and complaints posted by Kulinski and others, YouTube responded against them with reprimands and sanctions of varying degrees. 30

Kulinski described his personal troubles with CNN in several Twitter announcements on August 1, 2019, and appealed for voluntary donations:

I was up until 4am prepping a comprehensive debate breakdown for all of you lovely folks. Out of maybe a dozen videos, CNN is jacking all revenue from 10, because they include small clips from the debate. (2/4)31

The clips from the debate make up maximum 20% of each video, respectively. & it’s very bizarre to claim exclusivity for the ultimate of public forums, a presidential debate to determine who runs the country. This is shameful squeezing of independent creators @CNN @YTCreators 3/432

Please support all the independent content creators you watch & respect with a dollar or two per month, it means the world & makes ALL the difference http://Patreon.com/seculartalk (4/4)33

Ideology

Kulinski resists being defined explicitly as a socialist. For a March 2020 profile in Jacobin, a socialist opinion journal, he said he considered himself “pretty much a mild social democrat” and that the “idea that an actual revolution will happen in an advanced capitalist state is not something that makes sense to me.” But the Jacobin reporter wrote that Kulinski’s self-definition understated his “radicalism.” The writer compared the talk show host’s style to that of Eugene Debs, the socialist activist and five-time U.S. presidential candidate from the late 19th and early 20th century. 34

Kulinski is a supporter of democratic socialist U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), with political positions that align strongly with those of Sanders. “All I care about is Medicare for All and free college and a living wage and ending the wars and a Green New Deal and legalizing marijuana,” said Kulinski in March 2020. “Like this is what it’s all about.” 35

The end of President Barack Obama’s first term marked a turning point at which Kulinski has said he became “disillusioned with the mainstream left” because he said “at least half of the people kind of shut their brain off and went along with Obama.” From that point forward he has said his show “wasn’t just about ‘Republicans are wrong,’” but instead began to emphasize that “the entire system is messed up, and at least half the Democrats are corrupt, too!”36

In a pair of March 5, 2020, Twitter statements, Kulinski defined Sanders’s ideology as more moderate than that of former Democratic Vice President Joe Biden, Sanders’s rival for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination:

Bernie is the moderate in this race. He is the centrist bc he is in the center of mainstream American opinion. Biden is the extremist for supporting the Iraq war, social security cuts and outsourcing deals. That leads to death, job loss & pain. It’s extreme. [Included with this statement was a graph purporting to demonstrate strong polling support for “free college,” “single-payer healthcare” and hiking taxes on “the wealthy” and “big corporations.”]37

The media has brainwashed people into thinking common sense social democratic policies that the rest of the industrialized world enjoys are extreme. They’re dead wrong. 38

In a January 2017 episode of Secular Talk, Kulinski said he had “nothing but love” for the U.S. Green Party and has voted for more of its candidates than those of the Democratic Party. He also said the Green Party platform was “one of the best, if not the best, in the country.” 39

Influences

The name of Kulinski’s show (Secular Talk) is derived from his interest in and support of the so-called “New Atheist” movement. In particular, he says he was most influenced by New Atheist author and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, and to a lesser degree by neuroscientist Sam Harris (who was also once a guest on Secular Talk.) In an October 2017 video, Kulinski said he had come to “actively dislike” the late New Atheist journalist and author Christopher Hitchens because—as Kulinski describes it—Hitchens “went full neocon [neoconservative]” in his later years. 40 41

Others cited by Kulinski as influences over his thinking and show include left-leaning talk show host Thom Hartmann, radical-left academic Noam Chomsky, and left-of-center TV talk show comedian Bill Maher. 42

Identity Politics

Kulinski has been critical of identity politics and supports instead the socialist left’s more traditional emphasis on working class consciousness.

According to Jacobin, his show “just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want,” and that the “very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk.” The socialist journal deemed Kulinski “one of YouTube’s most effective class warriors.” 43

“Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all — class issues,” said Kulinski in a recent video. “That Raytheon decided they don’t hate gays or trans people — frankly, I don’t really give a [expletive deleted] what their take on that is. They’re a horrendous company, and they need to be reeled the [expletive deleted] in.” 44

Asked by Jacobin about the left’s “perpetual battles” regarding class and identity politics, Kulinski replied: 45

“Overwhelmingly, over 95 percent of the time, the solutions to these problems are universal solutions. And of course that includes a diverse, multiracial, multireligious working-class coalition. That’s the duh part. That’s the obvious part. To pretend like we’re still stuck on square one as if we don’t get that it’s a diverse working-class coalition, I think it’s silly. I think it’s like, who are you guys kidding?”46

Justice Democrats

In January 2017 Kulinski became one of the co-founders of Justice Democrats, along with Cenk Uygur (the host and founder of the Young Turks Network), and former Bernie Sanders 2016 presidential campaign aides Saikat Chakrabarti, Corbin Trent, and Zack Exley. 47

In December 2017, Uygur was asked to resign from the board of Justice Democrats due to allegedly “racist and sexist” statements he made in a blog post more than a decade earlier. Shortly thereafter, stating he was displeased with how Uygur had been treated, Kulinski also resigned from his position as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. 48

Justice Democrats is a Democratic Party-aligned 527 political action committee (PAC) that recruits and supports left-wing Democratic primary challengers to establishment Democratic members of Congress. The PAC is very critical of conventionally liberal Democratic politicians, such as former President Bill Clinton, and hopes to drive the Democratic Party toward a more left-wing policy agenda. 49 Candidates endorsed and supported by Justice Democrats are expected to pledge not to accept corporate funding and to generally endorse the left-wing platform of Justice Democrats. 50 It was one of the two organizations that created the Green New Deal,51 and also supports universal government-run healthcare, a prohibition on private donations to politicians, and federal funding for abortions and political campaigns. 52

In the 2018 election Justice Democrats targeted 12 incumbent Democrats and defeated ten-term incumbent U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY), who lost to socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY). 53 Justice Democrats also targeted but failed to defeat U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX) in a 2020 Democratic primary election. 54 55

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